Subject	and like i mentioned before
Posted by	Alan(NJ) on January 30, 2008 at 9:40 AM
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In Reply To	Alan, get off Ash's bandwagon. posted by sparkie on January 30, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Message	if TOM started a GB first, i probably would have gone with him. i even contacted TOM when Ash didnt provide an update for a long time, and TOM said at the time, he was not making 2.5" IC pipes.. Z is currently under renovation. pardon her appearance:
Follow Ups	BIG RUMOR. I got an email from Ash a few hours ago regarding - 240Z FeO2 17:43:24 01/29/08 do you like drama (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 17:47:43 01/29/08 lol (n/m) - Guapo 17:51:12 01/29/08 I'm running for Prime Minister.......... Ssshhhh!! (n/m) - Inzane 17:53:54 01/29/08 "WOLF!! WOLF!!!!!" You do remeber that story, right? (n/m) - Dave N 18:10:08 01/29/08 Yikes I guess I have put my credibility at risk? Me and - 240Z FeO2 18:25:17 01/29/08 Nah, but you'd be on some ignore lists if we had them (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:33:09 01/29/08 By now I would assume anyone who announces anything - 240Z FeO2 19:39:12 01/29/08 Your credibility is not at stake but you have to admit that - Dave N 18:54:19 01/29/08 That's a fair and measured assesment, and sound advice too. (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 19:05:56 01/29/08 well said (n/m) - 550HPTT 19:11:07 01/29/08 VTF. (n/m) - Tu 19:29:50 01/29/08 This particular product has changed a lot of how I think - Ash's Z 19:29:53 01/29/08 The only quibble I have with your response is in regard - Dave N 19:38:29 01/29/08 How long after money was received did it go to production? - SeedyROM 19:46:35 01/29/08 The order was placed with the manufacturer the same day - Ash's Z 20:42:53 01/29/08 you should consider having them manufactured in China - aliaZ 20:55:46 01/29/08 He could always join AMS and do it the cheap route - 5280Z_nightstalker 00:26:09 01/30/08 Regarding communication, Ash has always responded to - 240Z FeO2 20:53:15 01/29/08 Thus making you the exception, not the rule. (n/m) - Kenny 20:55:11 01/29/08 i have always had good luck with Ash - Alan(NJ) 20:57:01 01/29/08 Glad to see that you are making progress with it - Kong ZTT GT28RS MD 07:54:16 01/30/08 don't forget lack of capital to build an initial run. - Spee 21:45:40 01/29/08 haha i like ur analogy. very clever (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 21:49:19 01/29/08 I dont recall him twisting anyones arm to give up money - 550HPTT 22:25:22 01/29/08 So Ash is Kevin Costner. Are you James Earl Jones then? (n/m) - Eric(NJ) 22:31:52 01/29/08 +1 (n/m) - ZiNnYc 23:52:56 01/29/08 So Ash is a premature discloser. (n/m) - Got Z? 00:45:52 01/30/08 yes...and it begs the question... - Spee 21:39:17 01/29/08 e2-e4 then. (n/m) - 240Z FeO2 02:01:28 01/30/08 So how many months ago was this announced? (n/m) - AZHeat 18:39:51 01/29/08 Just before your oil pan announcement. (n/m) - Dustin 19:31:26 01/29/08 *Waiting for the judges to rule if that was above or below - Dave N 19:40:24 01/29/08 Fair hit (n/m) - 550HPTT 20:11:03 01/29/08 Not posting pictures or giving dates ,or taking orders - AZHeat 21:41:44 01/29/08 Just in time for you not to be able to cancel your orders... - Kenny 20:37:24 01/29/08 price difference may reflect quality - Alan(NJ) 20:44:22 01/29/08 You clearly haven't seen Tom's work. (n/m) - Guapo 20:45:54 01/29/08 im talking about the IC pipes - Alan(NJ) 20:48:21 01/29/08 if you had, you wouldn't question the quality of his work (n/m) - Guapo 21:05:23 01/29/08 T0m's welding is top-notch. The difference is out-sourcing. - Kenny 20:54:33 01/29/08 the pics Ash provided - Alan(NJ) 21:01:21 01/29/08 It's probably a safe bet neither will leak / have issues. - Kenny 21:06:32 01/29/08 ...and availability and CUSTOMER SERVICE (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 08:49:42 01/30/08 and doyou have pics of TOMs 2.5 IC pipes? (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 21:02:59 01/29/08 I'm sure T0m does, send him an email. (n/m) - Kenny 21:09:41 01/29/08 i'm getting Ashs IC pipes - Alan(NJ) 21:15:10 01/29/08 LOL! - Dustin 21:21:43 01/29/08 your attempt at making Alan look bad is really lame (n/m) - ZEngineer 21:36:01 01/29/08 Sorry, there wasn't much I could add. (n/m) - Dustin 21:42:04 01/29/08 glad you find it funny - Alan(NJ) 21:38:38 01/29/08 Your "sticking to Ash's IC pipes" completely contradicts - Dustin 21:55:54 01/29/08 like Kenny said - Alan(NJ) 22:32:05 01/29/08 I thought you were asking for pics? - Kenny 21:41:41 01/29/08 just wanted to see TOMs "top-notch" welding quality - Alan(NJ) 21:47:01 01/29/08 visit his website. He has a gallery. (n/m) - AZHeat 21:53:58 01/29/08 nothing on the 2.5" IC pipes tho (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 22:00:34 01/29/08 Do you understand the concept of "past performance?" - Kenny 22:04:08 01/29/08 he may rush to get that first batch out to beat - Alan(NJ) 22:12:28 01/29/08 Now you're just grasping at straws. - Kenny 22:20:08 01/29/08 Re: Now you're just grasping at straws. - Alan(NJ) 22:24:50 01/29/08 Well, that's why I said to send him an email. - Kenny 21:55:00 01/29/08 i've seen his work (website/pics) - Alan(NJ) 22:00:01 01/29/08 Tom is the freaking man. He will get my money once i'm ready - ali300zx 21:57:11 01/29/08 how long ago did you pay for the pipes you don't have yet? (n/m) - Spee 22:01:37 01/29/08 i knew what i got myself into - Alan(NJ) 22:05:11 01/29/08 This was back in October he made an annoucement and price - AZHeat 22:07:44 01/29/08 You don't mind giving Ash an interest free loan? - Spee 22:10:22 01/29/08 what he does with his money is his business - Alan(NJ) 22:16:41 01/29/08 *WT Direct. 4.3% APY. (n/m) - rojoloco (Yokosuka, Japan) 07:37:36 01/30/08 yup, got pics right here of TOMS 2.5 pipes and IC's on my Z - tya 02:02:45 01/30/08 those arent even PC'd - Alan(NJ) 08:25:19 01/30/08 Alan, get off Ash's bandwagon. - sparkie 08:54:21 01/30/08 not on a bandwagon - Alan(NJ) 09:35:01 01/30/08 and like i mentioned before - Alan(NJ) 09:40:28 01/30/08 You don't have to powdercoat aluminum.. - Kong ZTT GT28RS MD 08:59:04 01/30/08 form over function - tya 10:01:50 01/30/08 i understand - Alan(NJ) 10:07:52 01/30/08 It's moot, he'll powdercoat the mild steel. (n/m) - Kenny 10:16:58 01/30/08 moot?? (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 10:18:18 01/30/08 Re: moot?? - Kenny 10:46:26 01/30/08 thank you sir (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 11:03:24 01/30/08 Don't you mean function over form? (n/m) - Kong ZTT GT28RS MD 15:37:28 01/30/08 lol, stop playing. - Spee 21:55:12 01/29/08 i kno - Alan(NJ) 22:01:24 01/29/08 LOL - Spee 21:37:16 01/29/08 ZToyz-like customer service FTW! =p (n/m) - ZLover4Life 00:30:38 01/30/08 bout time! (n/m) - moxie (SF) 00:40:27 01/30/08 BIG LoL (n/m) - RSR 07:54:36 01/30/08 This is ridiculous.... - eriksu9 09:43:20 01/30/08 Re: This is ridiculous.... - Kenny 09:58:06 01/30/08 stop making sense. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 12:36:14 01/30/08
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